Just thought I would let you all know that I will be a panelist for a debate over AB1934 at the Catfish Club this coming Friday. The details are in this link.
http://www.catfishclub.net/LuncheonCalendar.html
CARRY ON!
-N8
Wednesday, July 21, 2010
Thursday, July 15, 2010
FUD at Turner's Kearney Mesa
So I stopped by Turner's in Kearney Mesa today to see if anyone decided to pawn off any cool rifles that I could snag on the cheap. While there I chatted with a sales associate about my 5.11 Select Carry pack. I told him about it, showed him the Makarov I was LUCCing in the chest pocket and when I told him about Lori Saldana's goons at the Lafayette debate, things began to go downhill. I am just going to itemize the FUD that he spewed forth.
1) He said that the cops in Lafayette could have demanded ID from me. This sparked a $100 bet on whether or not California has a stop-and-ID statute. More details on this later.
1) He said that if you drove somewhere in a car, got out on foot and were stopped by an officer that the officer could compel ID.
2) He said that my LUCC'd Makarov was a violation of the law and store policy. He only mentioned this after he had Googled the law for a few minutes, went into the back room to discuss something with a manager then got all huffy when leaving to attend another customer. I had to let another guy check my Makarov (it was cool, it sparked a talk on Makarovs for a bit). Also, I do not feel that I violated store policy and neither do the other sales guys. I will be asking corporate tomorrow.
3) He said that there is a length limit on knives in California. Another $100 bet was levied on this but I believe he backed out of it.
4) He said that his buddy down in Harbor Patrol has "run the OCers out of his area" and that he would do the same to me if I showed up in the Harbor area. Looks like I have a new challenge and yet another way to spend by Thursday nights (while single)
5) He challenged me to give him my license plate number so that he could call his SDHP friend and harass me while I was LUCCing/UOCing a pistol. It just keeps getting better.
6) He tried to school me on private property law and how he was a nice guy for not telling me to leave. Yeah...
As for the bet, I left him my email address so he could Gunpal the money when he figures out that he the loser. I am not holding my breath though, he looks as dishonest as the day is long.
On the bright side, I got recognized by a guy in the store whose brother was inspired by the Reader article and OC'd his shotgun in San Bernadino for a school project. He ended up getting detained for 1.5 hours, having his gun disassembled to check for loaded status (even though he had a safety lock through the action) and was eventually let go. Not necessarily a good story, but kind of a cool school project.
I also educated the same guy on concealing fixed blade knives. He showed me his two fixed blades under his jacket and I quickly corrected 10 years worth of misinformation. I also gave him advice on covering his rear legally in terms of reading and knowing the law.
Such was my day at Turners. If anyone stops by there at all, feel free to nag him about the bet. I don't know his name but he is a late 30s-early 40s guy with gray hair and moderate build.
Back to Anatomy.
CARRY ON!
-N8
1) He said that the cops in Lafayette could have demanded ID from me. This sparked a $100 bet on whether or not California has a stop-and-ID statute. More details on this later.
1) He said that if you drove somewhere in a car, got out on foot and were stopped by an officer that the officer could compel ID.
2) He said that my LUCC'd Makarov was a violation of the law and store policy. He only mentioned this after he had Googled the law for a few minutes, went into the back room to discuss something with a manager then got all huffy when leaving to attend another customer. I had to let another guy check my Makarov (it was cool, it sparked a talk on Makarovs for a bit). Also, I do not feel that I violated store policy and neither do the other sales guys. I will be asking corporate tomorrow.
3) He said that there is a length limit on knives in California. Another $100 bet was levied on this but I believe he backed out of it.
4) He said that his buddy down in Harbor Patrol has "run the OCers out of his area" and that he would do the same to me if I showed up in the Harbor area. Looks like I have a new challenge and yet another way to spend by Thursday nights (while single)
5) He challenged me to give him my license plate number so that he could call his SDHP friend and harass me while I was LUCCing/UOCing a pistol. It just keeps getting better.
6) He tried to school me on private property law and how he was a nice guy for not telling me to leave. Yeah...
As for the bet, I left him my email address so he could Gunpal the money when he figures out that he the loser. I am not holding my breath though, he looks as dishonest as the day is long.
On the bright side, I got recognized by a guy in the store whose brother was inspired by the Reader article and OC'd his shotgun in San Bernadino for a school project. He ended up getting detained for 1.5 hours, having his gun disassembled to check for loaded status (even though he had a safety lock through the action) and was eventually let go. Not necessarily a good story, but kind of a cool school project.
I also educated the same guy on concealing fixed blade knives. He showed me his two fixed blades under his jacket and I quickly corrected 10 years worth of misinformation. I also gave him advice on covering his rear legally in terms of reading and knowing the law.
Such was my day at Turners. If anyone stops by there at all, feel free to nag him about the bet. I don't know his name but he is a late 30s-early 40s guy with gray hair and moderate build.
Back to Anatomy.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Monday, July 5, 2010
St. Bridgid's Parish
I carried during mass at St. Bridgid's Parish on Cass Street after my Independence Day activity. I had one gentleman ask me if I was an off-duty cop and the two people with him were all smiles when I told them "Nope, I'm just an ordinary guy" and "Happy Fourth!" No one else in church seemed to care.
Let freedom ring.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Let freedom ring.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Sunday, July 4, 2010
FOURTH OF JULY!
Happy 4th of July!
We are heading into some dark times but I trust that the flame of liberty will not perish.
That said, despite dire predictions on behalf of some Calguns members, today was pretty much just another day in the neighborhood. Here is how it went...
Since most people had other plans for the 4th, we had a very small group of individuals carrying today. We started out at Kono's for breakfast. Kono's is very popular and the hour-long line was halfway down the block. While waiting, my group spoke with two very nice Nevada residents and discussed the nuances of Nevada and Kalifornia gun laws. It turned out that they were pro-gun but not carriers but we helped them realize what a privilege shall-issue concealed carry is, and they said' they'd apply for their permits. Hopefully, they preserve that lovely Nevada "outlaw" culture.
After breakfast, we strolled the boardwalk, taking in the view. As we walked we were stopped by a promoter for Shen Yun and we had a good but slightly disheartening chat with him. Here is the recording. Immediately afterwards, we were accosted by two police officers. I have to laugh at the opening line; it was like asking if the sky was blue.
We then decided to put to rest Lori Saldana's hysterical claim that open carriers, obviously the most law abiding people in Kalifornia, are somehow a drain on police resources. So to test that theory, Sam called in a "man with gun" call on himself via the non-emergency SDPD line.
The dispatcher did not seem concerned, correctly assuming that the OC'ers (us) were legal. We waited a while, and eventually went on our way. Both our internal and external information sources were monitoring the police airwaves and promised to alert us to any MWG calls. No notification ever came, just as no police ever arrived. We can safely assume that our phone call ended with dispatch.
Lori is lying again. \sarcasm\ Who would have thought it possible? /sarcasm/
After wandering about for 3.5 hours total, we all went home.
Now, a debriefing.
1) There was A (singlular) firecracker the whole day and it sounded like one of those Mexican jumping beans. No one freaked, no one laid down suppression fire, no cops pulled their weapons.
2) No one ran around accusing us of shooting our guns off.
3) There were three cops that we saw THE ENTIRE TIME. Only two contacted us and only one made the mistake of opening his mouth.
4) We heard A LOT of positive comments and support.
CARRY ON!
-N8
We are heading into some dark times but I trust that the flame of liberty will not perish.
That said, despite dire predictions on behalf of some Calguns members, today was pretty much just another day in the neighborhood. Here is how it went...
Since most people had other plans for the 4th, we had a very small group of individuals carrying today. We started out at Kono's for breakfast. Kono's is very popular and the hour-long line was halfway down the block. While waiting, my group spoke with two very nice Nevada residents and discussed the nuances of Nevada and Kalifornia gun laws. It turned out that they were pro-gun but not carriers but we helped them realize what a privilege shall-issue concealed carry is, and they said' they'd apply for their permits. Hopefully, they preserve that lovely Nevada "outlaw" culture.
After breakfast, we strolled the boardwalk, taking in the view. As we walked we were stopped by a promoter for Shen Yun and we had a good but slightly disheartening chat with him. Here is the recording. Immediately afterwards, we were accosted by two police officers. I have to laugh at the opening line; it was like asking if the sky was blue.
We then decided to put to rest Lori Saldana's hysterical claim that open carriers, obviously the most law abiding people in Kalifornia, are somehow a drain on police resources. So to test that theory, Sam called in a "man with gun" call on himself via the non-emergency SDPD line.
The dispatcher did not seem concerned, correctly assuming that the OC'ers (us) were legal. We waited a while, and eventually went on our way. Both our internal and external information sources were monitoring the police airwaves and promised to alert us to any MWG calls. No notification ever came, just as no police ever arrived. We can safely assume that our phone call ended with dispatch.
Lori is lying again. \sarcasm\ Who would have thought it possible? /sarcasm/
After wandering about for 3.5 hours total, we all went home.
Now, a debriefing.
1) There was A (singlular) firecracker the whole day and it sounded like one of those Mexican jumping beans. No one freaked, no one laid down suppression fire, no cops pulled their weapons.
2) No one ran around accusing us of shooting our guns off.
3) There were three cops that we saw THE ENTIRE TIME. Only two contacted us and only one made the mistake of opening his mouth.
4) We heard A LOT of positive comments and support.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Friday, June 18, 2010
Lafayette Memorial Debate on AB1934
Wow, it has been a long time. Unfortunately, not much has really been happening so I will spice things up a bit with a new blog post.
So I drove up to San Francisco to attend the debate between the Responsible Citizens of California , the Brady Campaign and Lori Saldana, the author of AB1934 (the "Anti-OC" bill) but due to extraneous circumstances (getting lost in San Francisco and dealing with the HORRENDOUS traffic), I was only able to catch the last 1/2 of the debate.
Despite the fact that I missed most of the debate (will catch up on the broadcast in a bit), I did have a few morsels of laughter at the expense of the police officers in Lafayette. Here is the story...
Since there is a school within 1000' of Lafayette Memorial Hall and I would be damned if I did not show up without a gun, I decided to LUCC (Locked Unloaded Concealed Carry) my Browning Hi-Power to the debate. The problem was that as I was about to enter the Lafayette Memorial Hall, I noticed that no ammunition was allowed in the building per building policy (must have been just for this event). Since I had a loaded magazine in my backpack and I didn't want to be in violation of building policy, I went to my car and put it away. Because of my honesty, I had to deal with two police officers before entering into the debate room. Here is a recording of my encounter with Lafayette PD and a member of Saldana's security detail.
A couple of things that I could have done better or should not have done at all.
1) I was tired from a whole day of dealing with San Francisco traffic and I let my guard down to procure some cheap, tired laughs (albeit internal laughs.) DON'T DO THAT! I should have NEVER offered info to those cops, even though I was completely in the legal clear. My shenanigans caused this conversation to be about 4x as long as it should have been.
2) Sam and I have discussed the usage of asking "Am I legally required to answer that question?" to an official and we are of the opinion that it is not really a good idea to ask that in a conversation, reason being that these cops probably don't know the law anyways so they will just automatically just say "Yes." In addition, it prolongs the conversation unnecessarily, which increases one's chances of tripping up, etc.
Instead, asking these three questions...
Am I under arrest?
Am I being detained?
Am I free to go?
...are your best phrases for getting out of dealing with the police.
3) I didn't get a name or badge number, that is no bueno. I must not forget to do that in the future.
On a side note, it was very funny to see these officers tracking my every movement inside of the debate room. If you look in this video at 2:18, you will see one of the officers that I dealt with standing directly behind me. He apparently had his hand on his gun for a good portion of the time as well. Seems like that may be brandishing but then again...
Sam and I REALLY need to start making some more videos to expound on the BUSTED video (a MUST SEE and an EXCELLENT primer to your Constitutional rights.) I will get on him about that next week.
Chicago v. McDonald is coming out within 11 days. Keep your fingers crossed and get ready for a wild ride.
CARRY ON!
-N8
So I drove up to San Francisco to attend the debate between the Responsible Citizens of California , the Brady Campaign and Lori Saldana, the author of AB1934 (the "Anti-OC" bill) but due to extraneous circumstances (getting lost in San Francisco and dealing with the HORRENDOUS traffic), I was only able to catch the last 1/2 of the debate.
Despite the fact that I missed most of the debate (will catch up on the broadcast in a bit), I did have a few morsels of laughter at the expense of the police officers in Lafayette. Here is the story...
Since there is a school within 1000' of Lafayette Memorial Hall and I would be damned if I did not show up without a gun, I decided to LUCC (Locked Unloaded Concealed Carry) my Browning Hi-Power to the debate. The problem was that as I was about to enter the Lafayette Memorial Hall, I noticed that no ammunition was allowed in the building per building policy (must have been just for this event). Since I had a loaded magazine in my backpack and I didn't want to be in violation of building policy, I went to my car and put it away. Because of my honesty, I had to deal with two police officers before entering into the debate room. Here is a recording of my encounter with Lafayette PD and a member of Saldana's security detail.
A couple of things that I could have done better or should not have done at all.
1) I was tired from a whole day of dealing with San Francisco traffic and I let my guard down to procure some cheap, tired laughs (albeit internal laughs.) DON'T DO THAT! I should have NEVER offered info to those cops, even though I was completely in the legal clear. My shenanigans caused this conversation to be about 4x as long as it should have been.
2) Sam and I have discussed the usage of asking "Am I legally required to answer that question?" to an official and we are of the opinion that it is not really a good idea to ask that in a conversation, reason being that these cops probably don't know the law anyways so they will just automatically just say "Yes." In addition, it prolongs the conversation unnecessarily, which increases one's chances of tripping up, etc.
Instead, asking these three questions...
Am I under arrest?
Am I being detained?
Am I free to go?
...are your best phrases for getting out of dealing with the police.
3) I didn't get a name or badge number, that is no bueno. I must not forget to do that in the future.
On a side note, it was very funny to see these officers tracking my every movement inside of the debate room. If you look in this video at 2:18, you will see one of the officers that I dealt with standing directly behind me. He apparently had his hand on his gun for a good portion of the time as well. Seems like that may be brandishing but then again...
Sam and I REALLY need to start making some more videos to expound on the BUSTED video (a MUST SEE and an EXCELLENT primer to your Constitutional rights.) I will get on him about that next week.
Chicago v. McDonald is coming out within 11 days. Keep your fingers crossed and get ready for a wild ride.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Monday, March 15, 2010
France24.com Open Carry Interview
Hey everyone!
I was asked to do an interview for France24.com on the issue of Open Carry but I had to hand it off to my brother, Sam, because of finals week down here at UCSD. Apparently, a lot of French people are curious about American gun rights and the right to keep and bear, especially since this most recent Starbucks flareup.
Click here to see the France24.com news segment!
CARRY ON!
-N8
I was asked to do an interview for France24.com on the issue of Open Carry but I had to hand it off to my brother, Sam, because of finals week down here at UCSD. Apparently, a lot of French people are curious about American gun rights and the right to keep and bear, especially since this most recent Starbucks flareup.
Click here to see the France24.com news segment!
CARRY ON!
-N8
Tuesday, January 5, 2010
Interesting documentation from Sunnyvale Police Department
So bad_ace has uncovered some pretty good documentation from Sunnyvale Police Department that indicates that many of the officers are disgruntled by the fact that OCers are a law-abiding crowd. I guess that simple and impartial enforcement of the law is not an option anymore.
A summary of the documentation from bad_ace (shamelessly copied from his post on OCDO)
1. It seems SPD has a collaborative effort to stifle open carry activities.
2. They know it’s legal so they’re spending time finding ways to arrest for other things. (guilty before proven innocent)
3. SPD actively monitors opencarryradio.com, my youtube channel, and OCDO
4. They are informing neighboring departments when we have meet ups their.
5. They desperately want to arrest us for “failure to ID” (as if that’s a real thing). They know PC148.9 is bull, so they look for other tactics.
6. SPD wants to start a “Public Information Component” to educate the public on Open Carry. (Ministry of Truth?)
7. An off duty officer has called 911 on open carriers in Sunnyvale.
8. SPD is building a GIS maps database of school zones.
Links to the documentation
Document set 1
Document set 2
Now, I am going to go on a little bit of a schpeal here...
While it is NOT recommended that people OC at this time, (even I recommend not doing so at this moment) due to imminent political and legal issues (there IS a bill that has been drafted to ban UOC and it appears like it has been drafted so that it will invariably get a lot of innocent people arrested for even harmless transport) as well as the fact that we have no "legal teeth" so to speak (since the 2A is a PRIVILEGE at the moment, not a RIGHT) AND Calguns Foundation is NOT protecting OCers at the moment. I hate to admit it, but OCing right now is, OVERALL, not exactly the best idea. This argument has been hashed out many times over on OCDO and CGN so I will not rehash it here too much. I know it sounds weird coming from someone like me that has been so vocal in the past and has been published, but I know that the standing and expertise of the great members of the Calguns Foundation have not erred yet and so I am inclined to generally agree with them.
Once the 2A is incorporated AGAINST THE STATES via McDonald v. Chicago, we will get our prayers answered via Nordyke v. King and then we can really have the tools we need to win this emotionally draining fight for our rights. Yes, we do have to wait another SIX months but trust me, the juice is definitely worth the delayed squeeze on this one. We have the best men in the country working on this case and while it hurts to wait, that is just what we must do... WAIT.
Now, should one decide to open carry at this time (I am not your mother, I can only advise), I would like to warn you that cops getting much wiser about open carry and they are looking to up their game. The evidence presented above shows me that many police departments are evolving and are coordinating in an effort to simply arrest an OCer, ANY OCer, so that an OCer can be made an example by the State. They don't want that one 74 year-old guy in San Jose, they want one of the frequent posters on OCDO/CGN, anyone that is very experienced with the subject matter OR someone that is younger. DO NOT GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY! DO NOT LET YOUR DEFENSES FALTER! If it smells like a skunk, then it is a skunk and you need to act accordingly.
With that, I must depart for class.
CARRY ON!
-N8
A summary of the documentation from bad_ace (shamelessly copied from his post on OCDO)
1. It seems SPD has a collaborative effort to stifle open carry activities.
2. They know it’s legal so they’re spending time finding ways to arrest for other things. (guilty before proven innocent)
3. SPD actively monitors opencarryradio.com, my youtube channel, and OCDO
4. They are informing neighboring departments when we have meet ups their.
5. They desperately want to arrest us for “failure to ID” (as if that’s a real thing). They know PC148.9 is bull, so they look for other tactics.
6. SPD wants to start a “Public Information Component” to educate the public on Open Carry. (Ministry of Truth?)
7. An off duty officer has called 911 on open carriers in Sunnyvale.
8. SPD is building a GIS maps database of school zones.
Links to the documentation
Document set 1
Document set 2
Now, I am going to go on a little bit of a schpeal here...
While it is NOT recommended that people OC at this time, (even I recommend not doing so at this moment) due to imminent political and legal issues (there IS a bill that has been drafted to ban UOC and it appears like it has been drafted so that it will invariably get a lot of innocent people arrested for even harmless transport) as well as the fact that we have no "legal teeth" so to speak (since the 2A is a PRIVILEGE at the moment, not a RIGHT) AND Calguns Foundation is NOT protecting OCers at the moment. I hate to admit it, but OCing right now is, OVERALL, not exactly the best idea. This argument has been hashed out many times over on OCDO and CGN so I will not rehash it here too much. I know it sounds weird coming from someone like me that has been so vocal in the past and has been published, but I know that the standing and expertise of the great members of the Calguns Foundation have not erred yet and so I am inclined to generally agree with them.
Once the 2A is incorporated AGAINST THE STATES via McDonald v. Chicago, we will get our prayers answered via Nordyke v. King and then we can really have the tools we need to win this emotionally draining fight for our rights. Yes, we do have to wait another SIX months but trust me, the juice is definitely worth the delayed squeeze on this one. We have the best men in the country working on this case and while it hurts to wait, that is just what we must do... WAIT.
Now, should one decide to open carry at this time (I am not your mother, I can only advise), I would like to warn you that cops getting much wiser about open carry and they are looking to up their game. The evidence presented above shows me that many police departments are evolving and are coordinating in an effort to simply arrest an OCer, ANY OCer, so that an OCer can be made an example by the State. They don't want that one 74 year-old guy in San Jose, they want one of the frequent posters on OCDO/CGN, anyone that is very experienced with the subject matter OR someone that is younger. DO NOT GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY! DO NOT LET YOUR DEFENSES FALTER! If it smells like a skunk, then it is a skunk and you need to act accordingly.
With that, I must depart for class.
CARRY ON!
-N8
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